- Entered Day 2
- Evicted Day 72
- 5 evictions faced
- 14 noms received
Chris wants to be an actor but is currently between jobs – he enjoys the ‘gypsy lifestyle of acting’ and has never worked a 9-5 job because he ‘just couldn’t’. He is also a skilled artist – selling works of art drawn in biro – and lists his main passions as music, movies, ideas, girls, individuality, creativity, honesty and respect.
The 33-year-old feels that his parents have taught him how to be polite to others at all times: ‘I’m trying to wean myself of this a bit because now I am obsessively polite –if someone punched me in the face and they got blood on their knuckles I’d apologise for making their hands dirty’. He is also quick and witty with a dry sense of humour, claiming: ‘I don’t see class, I just see d**kheads or not d**kheads’.
When asked if he would choose money or love, Chris said: ‘I’d rather have money right now, I’ve got love but I don’t feel independent enough to say I love myself.’ His best personality trait is that if he has bonded with someone, he will ‘love them unconditionally forever – friends and relationships’. He explains his worst personality trait as: ‘I’ll see a sunny day and say yeah but it’s going to rain in a minute’.
Chris is definitely not looking for love in the Big Brother house. He laughed: ‘I never fancied anyone who’s been on BB anyway. That is my worst nightmare.’
He gets on best with intelligent people, as ‘willing stupidity is worse than natural stupidity’. He has a big group of friends, he’s ‘trying to reduce it’.
Chris wants to do Big Brother for the ‘free rent’, ‘to lose weight’ and because he ‘can’t afford therapy’ – but insists he’s not doing the show to further his acting career: ‘I will walk through any open door right now just to check out the scenery.’
He adds that he would resent having to participate in tasks – saying his pride would get in the way, and he hates team bonding games – but thinks he would be brilliant at secret missions.
@Lou
Bravo Lou. We have very similar thinking :heart:
@Nicky
Totally agree with you :up:
@Lou So you think it’s okay for him to evict his best pal, and totally ruin his chances of winning so that Ash doesn’t feel lonely?
Ash has treated Christopher, and Pav, like they are invisible for the vast majority of the show. He only buddied up to Pav from Friday after Winston and Mark left.
Go look on Youtube at the massive number of clips of Ash and Helen (and their crew) slating and slagging Pav behind his back.
Dear me.
Christopher (and his supporters) ought to be ashamed of himself.
@John Kane
‘Christopher (and his supporters) ought to be ashamed of himself’
What for? For being a man of principle.
For analysing a very difficult dilemma whilst being pushed by BB to make a decision within a restricted time frame.
For delivering an intelligent, logical and fair decision.
For not being a sheep and following the majority that used the reason that Pav coming in late did not deserve to win.
And most important of all, for understanding that Chris had lost interest when he dismissed all of the final task and mooched around saying he didn’t want to be there anymore.
Christopher had also nominated him face to face during the final section of that task, reasoning that Chris had made it abundantly clear that he was not interested in being a finalist.
Chris ruined his own chances. He didn’t need help from Christopher.
So, I, along with many supporters of Christopher, am not ashamed of myself. I’m very happy to be supporting this kind, gentle, intelligent and honorable young man.
Christopher for the win!
@maria You are as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine Maria.
I cannot agree with a single word of your previous post. I do not buy that Chris wanted to leave. He was choked up and shaking like a leaf when they were deliberating.
To use words like kind, gentle and (in particular) honourable to describe someone who would sell his closest friend down the river, four days before the end, is beyond my comprehension.
He chose to evict his closest friend and ally in favour of someone who has barely spoken to Christopher during his (short) tenure in the house. I am sorry but I do NOT see a lot of honour in that.
Pav and Christopher have no relationship to speak of (from what we’ve been shown).
Had it been myself in that situation I would have said: “Look, there is no way that I am evicting Chris or Ashleigh. I’m sorry Big Brother. I’m sorry Pav and I’m sorry Ash. They are my friends and I will not see my name put to evicting either of them. I’m happy to accept whatever consequences will come my way.”
Ash would have folded faster than Superman on laundry day and Pav would be history.
That would have been the HONOURABLE thing to do.
However since I cannot imagine that any further discussion is going to alter your view (anymore than it is going to alter mine) I think it is pointless for us to continue back and forth.
It is of course a cliché, but on this occasion we shall have to agree to disagree.
I’ve left a post for you over on Christopher’s page in answer to the questions you asked me.
@John Kane
Okay. Considering I voiced my opinion in a perfectly logical, non confrontational way I don’t appreciate being told I should be ashamed to support Christopher. There is nothing here to be ashamed of. I am not supporting or condoning a person who has bullied, said personal comments or been nasty towards any individuals so I find that a ridiculous turn of phrase to use.
I want to make a point here. While Ashley and Chris were friends with Christopher they were closer to each other, in the sense that Chris and Ashley spent most of the day together. As a viewer watching Christopher from the beginning I quickly figured out he was mostly going to be alone in there. Christopher was everyone’s + 1. An add on when people felt necessary to speak to when they were alone (Mark) or an extra when there was less housemates to bother with (Ashley and Chris) and it wasn’t done maliciously it was an unconscious behaviour by them. From the beginning Christopher faced an immense amount of criticism from incredibly strong characters and while I appreciate Chris faced heat in this stage from other housemates, Christopher’s treatment was awful to watch.To me Christopher has been the most bullied, overlooked and underestimated housemate in there. And looking back I saw not one housemate, besides Pauline who admitted it was playground bullying, stand up for him. Sure Ashley’s thrown a few ‘don’t speak like that to Christopher’ comments out recently but in the house, in front of others not one housemate thought It might be decent to stop Christopher being treated like crap. Again sure they went to the diary room and said it was dreadful and he was intelligent but never would they say that to other housemates. In terms of their friendships in the house, their choice of characters to hang out with or to speak to, Christopher came last. He was their sacrificial lamb during nominations and all the housemates piled it on week after week until Ashley gave him a break. My point is here that yes they are friends and very good ones in my opinion and I love both Ashleigh and Chris but they have all done things unconsciously and for sake of peace in the house that don’t quite honour your total code of perfect friendship. Ashley also nominated Christopher last week which you haven’t mentioned anywhere here.
He did the only fair thing he could have done in that situation.He is a fair man and that makes him admirable to me. Not only that but he has proved in his own way throughout the series that he will not be walked over, he will not be bullied and he has his own brain that isn’t led by the rest of the house no matter who they are.He is not a weak person and has been totally underestimated and would completely deserve to win for this reason.He has stayed true to who he is and how can you forget how only last week he stuck up for Chris when absolutely no one else did? Another thing I have to add is that while I have seen manipulation from every single housemate in there (both audience and fellow housemate manipulation) I have never seen Christopher ever being manipulative.
Also Ash is still a housemate and he will still have a sway in situations he’s involved in.
And I totally agree with you Maria as per usual.Absolutely no reason to be ashamed.
Best quote of the series so far…………
Came from Chris in diary room was a clip of tonights show on BBOTS last night.
Asked how is doing sharing the secret room with Helen……….
“Well the bathroom is nice” – classic I love his humour 😀
@Lou “Considering I voiced my opinion in a perfectly logical, non confrontational way I don’t appreciate being told I should be ashamed to support Christopher.”
At no point did I say that you should be ashamed to support Christopher, indeed to some degree I consider myself a supporter of Christopher.
What I did say was that Christopher should be ashamed of himself, as should his supporters (be ashamed of Christopher) for the way he declined to stick up for his closest remaining friend.
In future I’d appreciate it if you would not put words into my mouth.
The vast majority of your extra-long post was completely irrelevant. Christopher’s isolation in the house, whilst upsetting, has NOTHING to do with the discussion at hand.
“He did the only fair thing he could have done in that situation.”
You will have to explain to me why it was fair to eveit his longest serving ally and closest remaining friend rather than Pav, who he’s barely said two words to.
As for the argument with Helen, at the time I was impressed but also felt it was rather well timed, he finally decides to stand up to Helen immediately before “Finals Week” ?
If he had chosen to stand up to her at any of the hundreds of opportunities he has had during the previous two months then I might have bought it. This was a little to strategically timed for me to think it 100% genuine.
“He has stayed true to who he is and how can you forget how only last week he stuck up for Chris when absolutely no one else did?”
Funny how he was so quick to stick up for him in a pointless argument that has absolutely zero baring on the outcome of the show…yet when he had the chance to really do something to help Chris, when Chris REALLY needed that support, he…er…EVICTED him.
Can you explain that? Where was his passion for Chris when this decision had to be made?
@John Kane
“Christopher (and his supporters) ought to be ashamed of himself.”
You’ll appreciate why I took what you said to be insinuating this was directed at his supporters as it isn’t a very clear post in terms of its wording. I apologise for putting words in your mouth but I can’t say it was easy then to interpret what you meant.
The discussion at hand was his friendship with Ashleigh and Chris and how his fellow housemates have treated him within the house including how they have never had his back. It is entirely relevant in that they have done many things I deem to be disloyal to Christopher therefore I think it is unfair to jump on something he did under pressure and in a very awkward position. I’m saying at one point ALL housemates have isolated him, unintentionally, including Chris, despite being his friend and if they thought they had reason to put Christopher up for nomination they put him up. Just as he has done here with valid reasons.
Ash was also present. Ash is a housemate and has some leverage in there despite what people think. He is not a man whose going to let people make decisions for him. So to disregard him and leap on Christopher is frankly ridiculous and hard to actually get my head around. Ash would have been the only housemate left in there from his group if Pav had gone. This is clearly unfair and Christopher is a fair person. Not only this but Chris had continually made out like he wasn’t bothered about the final(and he may have not been being serious but he still said it!) I also doubt Ash would have allowed it. I don’t see how that isn’t a valid reason. I really honestly can’t see where your coming from at all here.
I think the clear hypocrisy was obvious to him during this argument. The fact that about 5 people were rounding on a guy for doing something 2 other people had also done would have appeared dreadful and as I’ve seen no indication of malicious or manipulative intent from Christopher I believe it to be genuine. I will concede that it may have been because of audience reaction and him needing to stick up for himself but I don’t think it was anything to do with the final.
He stuck up for Chris during an argument because they were rounding on him. To me that is far more important than keeping me in the big brother house. He didn’t like what they were making out about Chris because he knows him as a person and maybe just maybe Christopher doesn’t think winning big brother is really that important in the grand scheme? Maybe he felt it was far better to stick up for Chris’ reputation than it is to ensure him a place in a final he doesn’t seem to want to be in.
@Lou Or maybe he just thought Chris had a decent chance of winning and saw it as clearing out some of the competition?
We’ll never know, but I know which side I come down on.
“He stuck up for Chris during an argument because they were rounding on him. To me that is far more important than keeping me in the big brother house.”
I’m sorry Lou, but this is the biggest load of garbage I have ever read. If you asked a thousand people: “Would you rather someone stuck up for you in a pointless argument with a total imbecile…or…Stick up for you and keep you in with a chance of winning one of the most popular TV shows in Britain (not to mention a hundred grand)?”
My guess is you’d get 1,000 people who want the chance (however slight it may be) to win the show.
“Maybe he felt it was far better to stick up for Chris’ reputation than it is to ensure him a place in a final he doesn’t seem to want to be in.”
Ignoring the fact that he auditioned to be on the show and accepted his slot in the house in the first place. If Chris didn’t want to be there, he knows where the door is. He’s stuck this out for three months and you are trying to tell me that with 4 days to go he’d rather be somewhere else?
You are talking nonsense in an attempt to defend the indefensible.
You would have more credibility if you simply said: “Christopher really let himself, and Chris, down the other night, but on the balance of the series he is still my favourite and I hope he wins.”
@John Kane
Hi John Kane, You say to Lou,’in future I’d appreciate if you do not put words into my mouth’
You wrote ‘Christopher (and his supporters) ought to be ashamed of himself’ When I read that statement, I attempted to understand what exactly you meant by that, as the grammar left a lot to be desired.
I then interpreted it exactly the same way as Lou. That we, as supporters of Christopher should be ashamed of ourselves. The inference was made in how you wrote it. Deliberately or otherwise!
It is interesting that you have picked this up with Lou, when indeed, I also said the same thing in my response post to you and you chose to ignore it.
I also think you are being quite rude to her in your post. Her points were not ‘completely irrelevant’ They were part and parcel of her overall rationale in support of Christopher.
Don’t be a bully! Just enjoy the different opinions offered and try to make your points a little clearer so they are not misconstrued :up:
Proud to be a Christopher supporter. Christopher for the win!
@maria I can see that my grammar wasn’t the best with that one and it may have been confusing. I hope that I have clarified what I meant.
Please also rest assured that I absolutely love the debate her, especially when it is with people who are as articulate and forthcoming with their opinions as yourself and Lou.
With that said if I believe something to be irrelevant then I will say so, nobody has to agree with me. Similarly if I think a point raised is nonsense, I will say so, just as I would expect you or anybody else to say so if you have a valid reason to back up that assertion.
I do not do so in an insulting or an intimidating way. I am merely offering my opinion to a post in the same way that many people offer up their opinions of what I have to say.
After all isn’t that what we’re all here for?
I am NOT a bully however and I do not appreciate the inference.
That should read: “…I love the debate here…”
@John Kane
Thank you for agreeing that your grammar wasn't the best and may have been confusing. You have clarified what you meant, even thought I do not agree 😀
I have always felt that you enjoy the debates on here and I thank you for your kind comments about the posts from Lou and I.
I have no problem with you disagreeing with any poster (including myself) and you say that you 'do not doso in an insulting or an intimidating way' However, Lou made a statement which was her opinion and you told her 'this is the biggest load of garbage I have ever read' That was insulting!
You also told her she was talking nonsense in an attempt to defend the indefensible. In isolation this may not be considerd insulting but as part of your overall post it did come over as that.
Yes, we are all here to offer up up opinions. I just believe there are ways and means of disagreeing with peoples opinions without resorting to emotive and confrontational language. It just spoils the flow of the dialogue and is not very nice.
I did not infer that you were a bully. I asked you not to be a bully. Quite different! No inference there. I was saying it straight out because I felt you were being a bully. Sorry if you didn't appreciate that but sometimes we are told things that we don't like to hear.
Sorry John Kane. Not sure what has happened with the text of my post. I was doing some amendments and it suddenly left me!
I don’t like all those lines, ewww!
Anyway, just to finish. I did appreciate your response and let’s keep on conversing.
@maria Now it is you who is talking nonsense.
“I was saying it straight out because I felt you were being a bully.” If you are suggesting that referring to something as garbage or nonsense is bullying then I’m afraid 90% of people would be enduring bullying at some point each and every day.
Please tell me why you felt I was being a bully?
@John Kane
No, I am not talking nonsense.
You ask me to tell you why I felt you were being a bully.
There are various categories of bullying and I felt you sat in the category of ‘a bully is a person who makes another feel uncomfortable through insulting language and belittling opinions’
That is what I felt you were doing when using the words ‘this is the biggest load of garbage I have ever read’ in response to Lou’s opinions in her post.
Perhaps it is your passion for wanting to put a point over, that manifests itself in a confrontational way. If you respond to a posters opinions with the words ‘garbage’ and ‘nonsense’ then you are belittling that persons opinions and that then suggests a mild form of bullying.
You may well be right that 90% of people would be enduring bullying at some point each and every other day when being at the receiving end of such words
A bullying culture can develop in any context in which human beings interact with each other, ranging from mild to severe.
I think if people were a bit more careful in the way they communicate and have respect for others feelings, that figure could be reduced. Wouldn’t it then be a very pleasant world.
I am sorry if you don’t like what I said, BUT you did ask. I gave and now I will send you my invoice for $300 dollars. Hope you don’t think that it too expensive. :happy:
Now on to BB matters. Christopher for the win!
@maria
Christopher to win !! I am already on their hate list and actually prefer it that way because they dont know how to play nicely if you get my drift. Since day one first comment made i was attacked and soon found out who rules the roost so I just carry on and just ignore.. If they want to talk to me thats fine but if not then no skin off my nose as they say..I enjoy myself anyhow
@Bob
Right Bob ? Is it Christopher to win ?
@maria I’m afraid I could not disagree with your reasoning anymore if I tried.
Using words like nonsense and garbage does not, never has done and never will make me a bully.
Perhaps trying to paint someone thus because you don’t like their point of view means that it is you, in fact, who is the bully?
@John Kane
Oh John Kane, I’m scratching my head on your last sentence.
By the way, where’s my $300.00 😀 Peace
Christopher for the win!
@John Kane
Just looked at your first sentence again and realised that you are indeed agreeing with my reasoning.
Thank you John Kane 😀
@John Kane
Hi, sorry I haven’t been on here whoops. Okay this isn’t the first argument Christopher got involved in against Helen within the house as another member mentioned on one of the news posts and I had forgotten. He has quite often stuck his neck out and stuck up for others, usually to his own detriment but it hasn’t stopped him doing it again if he feels so something is wrong so I feel like that’s worth taking note of in terms of your last week comment.
It might be surprising but many people go in the big brother house for different reasons other than the cash prize. To me Christopher seems like one of those people. Therefore going from what I’ve seen of his character in there I think the reason he has been there is more to do with acceptance of who he is rather than the money. In lieu of that maybe he thinks other housemates are in there for that same reason meaning he would value sticking up for Chris over getting Chris into the final. When I watched the episode today I could see in Chris’ face he wanted to reach the final although I also saw relief in his face when his name was read out. I saw he was totally accepting of the decision and even maybe slightly peeved to go into the other house. I think this week he has been tired and a bit down and would have happily gone home. I believe Christopher could see this as he is in the house with them. I also believe Ash wanted Christopher to see this compared with Pavs enthusiasm.
I can’t say that because I don’t believe it was the wrong decision. I’m sorry but I can’t agree so that comment would be pointless. There are times where I have thought Christopher wrong, especially in terms of standing up for himself but this isn’t that occasion.
In light of that are there not times were you would feel it pertinent to say Ashleigh may be wrong?
In terms of bullying I wouldn’t go with that term although I can see Maria’s point definitely. I do feel her completely correct in that just because you don’t agree with an opinion doesn’t mean you need to completely shoot it down.It is also the way sometimes you may put things that can embarrass those your addressing so they feel there point inadequate or stupid and are unwilling to voice it again. I enjoy debating here however and I’m not easily embarrassed 😀 if everyone agreed it wouldn’t as fun to come here
@maria How droll.
You have made a very good job of deflecting the conversation from the points i raised in my post addresses to Lou.
Well done.
@maria
Hi, thank you for your great comments today! Much appreciated! Love seeing you speak on these forums and you are really great at reading the housemates and this forums members comments while eloquently putting your point across!! Again thanks for your support and your always spot on comments 😀 :heart: good to have you here! Keep posting!